and ted kennedy was standing with george w. bush and john mccain years ago, you thought this is going to happen. and it didn't happen. >> i did. >> will it this time? >> i think there is more likelihood, john, it will happen. that's because of the political reality. most of the country supports some kind of pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. you saw that president obama beat mitt romney by about 3 to 1 with hispanic voters. problem is that the divides the republican party only about a third of self-i'ded republic ee self-identified republicans support it. you have to get someone like marco rubio, putting himself on the front line, a senator with real conservative tea party credentials, putting himself on the front line and saying we need do this for the country, and we need to do this for the republican party. this is somebody now who has taken to conservative talk radio, talking about what needs to be done. the key here, john, is enforcement. because the path to citizenship in the senate version of the bill is goin